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Are you kidding me?
By:NancyJ
Date: 9/26/08 10:49am
In Response To: Wolves are not defenseless animals (Lola)

The people of Alaska voted twice...yes twice to ban the practice of aerial hunting of wolves but Palin promotes it with $400,000 of taxpayer money.

Aerial hunting measure back on the ballot

This is the third time there’s been a statewide vote on this issue. (Carolyn Hall/KTUU-TV)

by Lori Tipton
Friday, Aug. 15, 2008

ANCHORAGE, Alaska-- Citizens have voted to ban aerial wolf hunting twice but the issue is back.

Ballot measure 2 says private citizens will no longer be allowed to kill animals from airplanes in order to boost low moose and caribou populations.

Those pushing for a "no vote" argue that Alaska needs a healthy predator-prey relationship and aerial shooting provides that.

Those that are backing the measure say it is an attack on traditional hunting values.

Herds represent a precious natural resource that some say needs to be protected from predators. But how that should happen is up for debate.

The decision will be left up to voters casting their ballot for a bill amending same day airborne shooting.

Valerie Connor, the interim director at the Alaska Center for the Environment, says they have partnered with the group Alaskans for Wildlife in support of the ballot measure.

"We believe in a balanced approach to wildlife management so we are encouraging our members to vote yes on ballot measure 2," said Connor.

The group claims it values the state's wildlife and hunting traditions and is opposed to aerial hunting.

Jennifer Yuhas with Alaskans for Professional Wildlife Management, is pushing for the "no" vote against measure 2.

"We don't have aerial hunting in Alaska. You cannot find a permit for aerial hunting," said Yuhas.

She says private citizens can obtain a permit to help assist Fish and Game with aerial predator management although it is not considered hunting.

Connor claims it is hunting.

"I think that when you take private citizens and give them permission to kill animals from an airplane with their own guns and their own equipment and then harvest the pelts from the animal, that looks like hunting to me," said Connor.

Connor says her group is not opposed to predator management but finds airborne shooting unethical and not "fair chase."

Yuhas says "fair chase" is not the issue.

"This is about giving a moose a break. Predator management is never pretty. But this is the most humane method available to us," said Yuhas.

If the bill is passed it will not prohibit Fish and Game from managing predators.

It would only allow aerial shooting if there is a biological emergency, which Yuhas says is not clearly defined in the ballot measure.

"It's poorly worded, it's disingenuous, it's being sold as supporting the department when it's really hamstringing the department," she said.

The Department of Fish and Game has implemented aerial predator management programs to just a handful of sub units across the state, but Connor argues that there is no real science behind Fish and Game's decision on where those programs should be put into place.

"There's no real proven science behind what the carrying capacity of the land is and what the ratio ultimately should be to achieve the goals of artificially boosting caribou and moose numbers," said Connor.

The only thing both sides seem to agree upon is that the moose and caribou population should be protected but continue to disagree on how to do so.

Measure 2 also applies to grizzly bears and wolverines.

If measure two passes, it will still remain legal to trap and hunt wolves on foot or by snowmachine, which is how a large majority are being killed now.

This is the third time there's been a statewide vote on this issue.

The other votes were in 1996 and 2000, both against aerial shooting.

The first vote was overwhelmingly against the issue and the second vote was a very strong majority.

However, the state Legislature overturned both of those decisions.

Messages In This Thread

The Silent Ms Palin -- San Fran Jan -- 9/24/08 6:02pm
Re: The Silent Ms Palin -- Papi -- 9/25/08 7:50pm
Re: The Silent Ms Palin -- San Fran Jan -- 9/26/08 5:45pm
WOW are you that out of touch SFJ??! -- Lola -- 9/25/08 12:31pm
EVERY Animal Is Defenseless... -- Island Girl -- 9/25/08 10:42pm
I agree with you there -- Lola -- 9/26/08 2:44pm
Re: I'm With You SFJ -- Firemon -- 9/25/08 2:36pm
Re: WOW are you that out of touch SFJ??! -- Roger -- 9/25/08 1:52pm
Wolves are not defenseless animals -- Lola -- 9/25/08 6:48pm
Are you kidding me? -- NancyJ -- 9/26/08 10:49am
Thanks Nancy -- Lola -- 9/26/08 11:58am
Re: Wolves are not defenseless animals -- Roger -- 9/25/08 7:24pm
No relevance for you if you don't read up *NM* -- Lola -- 9/26/08 12:00pm
Re: Point, Set, Match Roger *NM* -- Firemon -- 9/25/08 2:52pm
Re: WOW are you that out of touch SFJ??! -- Jeromy -- 9/25/08 1:39pm
As far as experience... -- Lola -- 9/25/08 7:13pm
WOW, Quoting Ray's Post -- Island Girl -- 9/25/08 10:44pm
?? I did not take this from Ray's post -- Lola -- 9/26/08 12:04pm
Re: ?? I did not take this from Ray's post -- ray -- 9/26/08 3:14pm
The Only "Content" YOU Want. To See... -- Island Girl -- 9/27/08 1:53pm
Re: As far as experience... -- Blue Mountain Drifter -- 9/25/08 10:08pm
Re: As far as experience... -- Roger -- 9/25/08 7:28pm
Re: WOW are you that out of touch SFJ??! -- Roger -- 9/25/08 1:47pm
Roger, I heard what she said ~ -- Lola -- 9/25/08 6:59pm
Re: Roger, I heard what she said ~ -- Roger -- 9/25/08 7:32pm
LOL, maybe them, but not me -- Lola -- 9/26/08 12:19pm
Re: LOL, maybe them, but not me -- Roger -- 9/26/08 5:26pm
Re: WOW are you that out of touch SFJ??! -- Eagles -- 9/25/08 1:37pm
Perhaps your misguided understanding -- Lola -- 9/26/08 3:12pm
Re: The Silent Ms Palin -- Schultz -- 9/25/08 10:04am
Re: The Silent Ms Palin & PETA posterchild -- Blue Mountain Drifter -- 9/25/08 11:20am
You are all ears, aren't you? -- Lola -- 9/25/08 7:02pm
Re: You are all ears, aren't you? -- Blue Mountain Drifter -- 9/25/08 10:54pm
So your answer is NO, you haven't read the program *NM* -- Lola -- 9/26/08 12:40pm
Re: So your answer is NO, you haven't read the pro -- Blue Mountain Drifter -- 9/29/08 9:26pm
Re: Wolf pups, No bludgeoning -- Blue Mountain Drifter -- 9/25/08 3:19pm
Re: The Silent Ms Palin -- georgiajan -- 9/24/08 7:24pm
Re: Pathetic Palin -- Dynamic -- 9/25/08 10:36am
Re: Pathetic Palin -- nurse Marcia -- 9/25/08 12:36pm
Re: Pathetic Palin -- San Fran Jan -- 9/25/08 4:29pm
Re: Pathetic Palin -- Dynamic -- 9/25/08 6:12pm
You don't think people should eat? -- Lola -- 9/25/08 7:21pm
Re: You don't think people should eat? -- Blue Mountain Drifter -- 9/25/08 10:23pm
Uggh, another one of your lame responses *NM* -- Lola -- 9/26/08 12:44pm
Re: You don't think people should eat? -- Islander1 -- 9/26/08 12:18pm
Re: Pathetic Palin -- Bob and Pat -- 9/25/08 12:58pm
Re: The Silent Ms Palin -- Robert -- 9/24/08 9:46pm
THE NO TALK EXPRESS!!! WOOWOO ALL ABOARD! LOL *NM* -- Roger -- 9/24/08 7:16pm
Re: The Silent Ms Palin -- Roger -- 9/24/08 6:13pm
Re: The Silent Ms Palin -- Islander1 -- 9/24/08 6:22pm
Re: The Silent Ms Palin -- jusLurkin -- 9/25/08 12:40pm