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Not his words
By:ray
Date: 10/16/08 1:01pm
In Response To: debate (MilwaukeeMike)

YOU ARE PUTTING FORTH A FALSE CLAIM. Not only do you misquote McCain but you put forth as suggestion that is actually the OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOU SUGGEST.

Quotes are reserved for actual spoken words. He did NOT say what you said he did. MCain actuallly stated that would NOT be an issue OR A QUALIFICATION AND SHOULD NOT BE A CONSIDERATION.

What was actually said (about Roe v. Wade):

MCCAIN: I thought it was a bad decision. I think there were a lot of decisions that were bad. I think that decisions should rest in the hands of the states. I'm a federalist. And I believe strongly that we should have nominees to the United States Supreme Court based on their qualifications rather than any litmus test.

Now, let me say that there was a time a few years ago when the United States Senate was about to blow up. Republicans wanted to have just a majority vote to confirm a judge and the Democrats were blocking in an unprecedented fashion.

We got together seven Republicans, seven Democrats. You were offered a chance to join. You chose not to because you were afraid of the appointment of, quote, "conservative judges."

I voted for Justice Breyer and Justice Ginsburg. Not because I agreed with their ideology, but because I thought they were qualified and that elections have consequences when presidents are nominated. This is a very important issue we're talking about.

Senator Obama voted against Justice Breyer and Justice Roberts on the grounds that they didn't meet his ideological standards. That's not the way we should judge these nominees. Elections have consequences. They should be judged on their qualifications. And so that's what I will do.

I will find the best people in the world -- in the United States of America who have a history of strict adherence to the Constitution. And not legislating from the bench.

SCHIEFFER: But even if it was someone -- even someone who had a history of being for abortion rights, you would consider them?

MCCAIN: I would consider anyone in their qualifications. I do not believe that someone who has supported Roe v. Wade that would be part of those qualifications. But I certainly would not impose any litmus test.

See Mike, you got confused.

What McCain is saying about Roe is that he believes these issues should be left to the state. ("I'm a federalist."). He states that Roe v. Wasde is wrong because it usurps the power of the states to control such issues. The Constitution is clear on the separation of powers between the federal government and the states and what is to be left to the states to decide.

Did you pay close attetnion to the first four sentences and the last? McCain comments are about Federalism and lead to his implicit concern that the Court is imposing too many laws and weilding too much power and usurping the state rights, something vehemently debated by our founding fathers as they were quite concenred the Court would have too much power over the states and federal governments and ultimately the people. From this emanated some of the balances in our government structure such as between our legislative branch ability to overrrule the judiciary by legislation, and the executives powers to appoint surpeme court justices but which must be confirmed by Congress. These things came from the founding father's fear of the power of the Courts. (Note I am pro choice, anti Roe v. Wade and agree with McCain about federalism)

Messages In This Thread

debate -- MilwaukeeMike -- 10/16/08 10:59am
Not his words -- ray -- 10/16/08 1:01pm
Re: debate -- Islander1 -- 10/16/08 12:54pm
Re: debate -- ray -- 10/16/08 6:23pm
Re: debate -- Island Girl -- 10/17/08 8:28am
Re: debate -- Roger -- 10/16/08 6:42pm
Re: debate -- rhonda -- 10/16/08 2:03pm
Re: debate -- accompong -- 10/16/08 11:39am
Re: debate -- BMD -- 10/16/08 11:33am