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Ray, this is for you
By:MilwaukeeMike
Date: 10/7/08 8:52am
In Response To: Re: Silly Sensationalism or brainwashed? (ray)

Ray I'm so glad you brought up guilt by association. What do you have to say about Todd Palin's good friend and mentor, Joe Vogler, who wanted to secede Alaska from the USA?

"I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions". or "The problem with you John Birchers’ is that you are too damn liberal!" or what about "You get to think why the hell do I owe them anything and then you get mad; and you say to hell with them; and you renounce allegiance; and you pledge your efforts, your effects, your honor, your life, to Alaska; that is how I do it; I am an Alaskan; they know it; I've told them to go to hell in every way I can in a nice way; I took a case to the Supreme Court believing in the Supreme Court, but I'd rather be tried in a whorehouse with the madam as the Judge; there is more Justice in a whorehouse than in the Supreme Court; and if they don't like they know where they can go; ..... and if you think I am ever going to forget that, the fires of Hell are glaciers compared to my hate for the American Government, and I won't be buried under their damn flag; I'll be buried in Dawson and when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones back to Alaska, back to my country".

Rev. Wright's quote was taken out of context, which I suspect you know and chose not to mention. Fill me in on which part you object to.

"And the United States of America government, when it came to treating her citizens of Indian descent fairly, she failed. She put them on reservations. When it came to treating her citizens of Japanese descent fairly, she failed. She put them in internment prison camps. When it came to treating her citizens of African descent fairly, America failed. She put them in chains, the government put them on slave quarters, put them on auction blocks, put them in cotton field, put them in inferior schools, put them in substandard housing, put them in scientific experiments, put them in the lowest paying jobs, put them outside the equal protection of the law, kept them out of their racist bastions of higher education and locked them into positions of hopelessness and helplessness. The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no, no, not God Bless America. God damn America — that's in the Bible — for killing innocent people. God damn America, for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America, as long as she tries to act like she is God, and she is supreme. The United States government has failed the vast majority of her citizens of African descent.."

Messages In This Thread

The Exorcism of Sarah Palin -- Blue Mountain Drifter -- 10/5/08 11:25pm
Silly Sensationalism -- Lola -- 10/6/08 6:45pm
Re: Silly Sensationalism or brainwashed? -- Blue Mountain Drifter -- 10/6/08 8:18pm
Re: Silly Sensationalism or brainwashed? -- jaith -- 10/6/08 9:38pm
Re: Sorry no cults for me -- Blue Mountain Drifter -- 10/6/08 10:13pm
Re: Sorry no contemplation by you -- Lola -- 10/6/08 11:49pm
Re: Maybe you belong to a cult? -- Blue Mountain Drifter -- 10/7/08 12:24am
Re: Maybe you belong to a cult? -- ray -- 10/7/08 8:10am
Re: Maybe you belong to a cult? -- ray -- 10/7/08 1:25pm
Re: Maybe you belong to a cult? -- Blue Mountain Drifter -- 10/7/08 4:07pm
OK, you define EVERY religion as a cult -- Lola -- 10/7/08 9:47am
Re: OK, you define EVERY religion as a cult -- Blue Mountain Drifter -- 10/7/08 10:05am
Re: Silly Sensationalism or brainwashed? -- ray -- 10/6/08 8:53pm
Ray, this is for you -- MilwaukeeMike -- 10/7/08 8:52am
Check out that bolo tie.... -- central scrutinizer -- 10/7/08 5:45pm
Another one for Ray/Dick Chainy -- MilwaukeeMike -- 10/7/08 9:01am
Re: Another one for Ray/Dick Chainy -- ray -- 10/7/08 3:57pm
Re: Silly Sensationalism or silly witches? -- Blue Mountain Drifter -- 10/6/08 10:10pm
Re: Silly Sensationalism or silly witches? -- ray -- 10/7/08 8:14am
Extremism from any religion -- Col. Andy & "Wildcat" Pam -- 10/7/08 9:43am
Re: Silly Sensationalism -- Lola -- 10/6/08 11:46pm
Re: Silly Sensationalism -- ray -- 10/7/08 8:16am
No but you reminded me, its CHERRY PICKING! *NM* -- Lola -- 10/7/08 4:27pm
Re: Better Link -- Blue Mountain Drifter -- 10/7/08 12:02am
Re: Better Link -- ray -- 10/7/08 8:19am
I'm not going to delve into your comparison -- Lola -- 10/7/08 9:59am
Re: I'm not going to delve into your comparison -- Blue Mountain Drifter -- 10/7/08 10:11am
Re: I'm not going to delve into your comparison -- BrenJahLee -- 10/7/08 10:15am
Re: I'm not going to delve into your comparison -- Eagles -- 10/7/08 1:17pm
Re: I'm not going to delve into your comparison -- IHR -- 10/7/08 11:04am
Re: I'm not going to delve into your comparison -- accompong -- 10/7/08 11:30am
Re: I'm not going to delve into your comparison -- ray -- 10/7/08 12:25pm
Re: I'm not going to delve into your comparison -- Roger -- 10/7/08 3:28pm
Re: I'm not going to delve into your comparison -- BigLumbaBumba -- 10/7/08 3:31pm
Re: I'm not going to delve into your comparison -- Roger -- 10/7/08 3:40pm
Re: I'm not going to delve into your comparison -- IHR -- 10/7/08 4:03pm
Re: I'm not going to delve into your comparison -- ray -- 10/7/08 5:23pm
Re: I'm not going to delve into your comparison -- BigLumbaBumba -- 10/7/08 3:45pm
AFC??? -- Roger -- 10/7/08 4:21pm
Re: Larry Tate? -- Blue Mountain Drifter -- 10/7/08 4:14pm
ROFLMAO :) *NM* -- Lola -- 10/7/08 4:35pm
ROFLMAO TOO! *NM* -- ray -- 10/7/08 5:25pm
Re: ROFLMAO TOO! -- Roger -- 10/7/08 5:29pm
Re: ROFLMAO TOO! -- katie -- 10/7/08 8:29pm
Re: I'm not going to delve into your comparison -- Roger -- 10/7/08 4:13pm
Re: I'm not going to delve into your comparison -- BigLumbaBumba -- 10/7/08 3:48pm
LOL...oh my god...u r bad *NM* -- ray -- 10/7/08 5:27pm
See How Good That Worked For Him? -- Island Girl -- 10/7/08 6:54pm
Re: See How Good That Worked For Him? -- ray -- 10/7/08 8:06pm
"MOI"?? Starting "Trouble"??? -- Island Girl -- 10/7/08 8:21pm
Re: "MOI"?? Starting "Trouble"??? -- ray -- 10/7/08 8:42pm
You Have A Pleasant Evening Too, R*Y -- Island Girl -- 10/7/08 10:17pm
Re: You Have A Pleasant Evening Too, R*Y -- ray -- 10/8/08 9:08am
Hi B.B.S. ;) *NM* -- Bob and Pat -- 10/7/08 4:28pm
Re: Hi B.B.S. ;) -- BigLumbaBumba -- 10/7/08 4:31pm
Re: When you're right, you're right -- Blue Mountain Drifter -- 10/7/08 10:28am
Re: When you're right, you're right -- papi -- 10/7/08 11:24am
Re: When you're right, you're right -- ray -- 10/7/08 5:46pm
not at all silly to me Ray.See, again it's flowing -- Papi------WebKitFormBoundaryFTiHWCqNoe+9ZpQq------ -- 10/7/08 7:19pm
Re: not at all silly to me Ray.See, again it's flo -- ray -- 10/7/08 8:39pm
What's a "vermoter"? -- Island Girl -- 10/7/08 10:21pm
Re: What's a "vermoter"? -- ray -- 10/8/08 9:09am
Nevermind.... -- Island Girl -- 10/7/08 10:23pm
Re: Nevermind.... -- ray -- 10/8/08 9:11am
bad mind thing that -- Papi------WebKitFormBoundaryFTiHWCqNoe+9ZpQq------ -- 10/7/08 9:25pm
Smile! -- ray -- 10/8/08 9:21am
But McStain.... -- central scrutinizer -- 10/7/08 6:16pm
Re: When you're right, you're right -- Roger -- 10/7/08 5:54pm
Re: When you're right, you're right -- ray -- 10/7/08 12:28pm
Re: When you're right, you're right -- Roger -- 10/7/08 3:34pm
Re: When you're right, you're right -- ray -- 10/7/08 5:32pm
Re: When you're right, you're right -- Roger -- 10/7/08 5:53pm
Re: When you're right, you're right -- Blue Mountain Drifter -- 10/7/08 6:37pm
Re: When you're right, you're right -- ray -- 10/7/08 6:52pm
Re: When you're right, you're right -- Roger -- 10/7/08 7:01pm
Re: When you're right, you're right -- IHR -- 10/7/08 3:06pm
actually -- Papi------WebKitFormBoundaryFTiHWCqNoe+9ZpQq -- 10/7/08 3:15pm
Re: When you're right, you're right -- Bob and Pat -- 10/7/08 11:39am
Re: When you're right, you're right -- ray -- 10/7/08 12:28pm
good one :) NM *NM* -- Papi------WebKitFormBoundaryFTiHWCqNoe+9ZpQq -- 10/7/08 11:41am
Irie! *NM* -- Bob and Pat -- 10/7/08 10:22am
Furthermore, any proof its Sarah PALIN? -- Lola -- 10/6/08 10:22pm
Re: Need more proof ? -- Blue Mountain Drifter -- 10/6/08 10:54pm
Re: Furthermore, any proof its Sarah PALIN? -- jaith -- 10/6/08 10:38pm
Re: Furthermore, any proof its Sarah PALIN? -- ray -- 10/6/08 10:40pm
Re: The Exorcism of Sarah Palin -- Col. Andy & "Wildcat" Pam -- 10/6/08 9:47am
Re: The Exorcism of Sarah Palin -- Blue Mountain Drifter -- 10/6/08 10:47am