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Re: About our differences
By:vermontirie
Date: 10/13/08 11:21am
In Response To: Re: About our differences (ray)

Uh. Flag on the play!! Inappropriate TSKing. Offense loses 10 Patriotic Points.

Totally Jefferson. Have a little read. I'd say this is SO not improperly quoted and fits awfully nicely with some current issues.

Thomas Jefferson to Edward Carrington

16 Jan. 1787 Papers 11:48--49

The tumults in America I expected would have produced in Europe an unfavorable opinion of our political state. But it has not. On the contrary, the small effect of those tumults seems to have given more confidence in the firmness of our governments. The interposition of the people themselves on the side of government has had a great effect on the opinion here. I am persuaded myself that the good sense of the people will always be found to be the best army. They may be led astray for a moment, but will soon correct themselves. The people are the only censors of their governors: and even their errors will tend to keep these to the true principles of their institution. To punish these errors too severely would be to suppress the only safeguard of the public liberty. The way to prevent these irregular interpositions of the people is to give them full information of their affairs thro' the channel of the public papers, and to contrive that those papers should penetrate the whole mass of the people. The basis of our governments being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter. But I should mean that every man should receive those papers and be capable of reading them. I am convinced that those societies (as the Indians) which live without government enjoy in their general mass an infinitely greater degree of happiness than those who live under European governments. Among the former, public opinion is in the place of law, and restrains morals as powerfully as laws ever did any where. Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep. I do not exaggerate. This is a true picture of Europe. Cherish therefore the spirit of our people, and keep alive their attention. Do not be too severe upon their errors, but reclaim them by enlightening them. If once they become inattentive to the public affairs, you and I, and Congress, and Assemblies, judges and governors shall all become wolves. It seems to be the law of our general nature, in spite of individual exceptions; and experience declares that man is the only animal which devours his own kind, for I can apply no milder term to the governments of Europe, and to the general prey of the rich on the poor.

Messages In This Thread

About our differences -- ray -- 10/12/08 9:01pm
Re: About our differences -- BMD -- 10/12/08 11:45pm
Re: Touche BMD :) *NM* -- Firemon -- 10/13/08 9:29am
Re: About our differences -- ray -- 10/13/08 12:24am
Re: About our differences -- queenb -- 10/13/08 10:48am
Re: About our differences -- ray -- 10/13/08 3:45pm
Re: About our differences -- Roger -- 10/13/08 3:59pm
Re: About our differences -- vermontirie -- 10/13/08 11:21am
Re: Vermont Irie -- BMD -- 10/13/08 10:28pm
Re: Strong words hitting a nerve -- BMD -- 10/13/08 10:55am
Re: Strong words hitting a nerve -- ray -- 10/13/08 11:23am
Re: Strong words hitting a nerve -- ray -- 10/13/08 11:42am
Re: Strong words hitting a nerve -- vermontirie -- 10/13/08 3:06pm
Re: Strong words hitting a nerve -- Roger -- 10/13/08 3:25pm
Re: Strong words hitting a nerve -- Roger -- 10/13/08 2:22pm
Blah, blah, blah -- ray -- 10/13/08 3:05pm
Re: Blah, blah, blah -- Roger -- 10/13/08 3:12pm
Re: Strong words hitting a nerve -- accompong -- 10/13/08 10:58am
Re: Strong words hitting a nerve -- ray -- 10/13/08 11:24am
Re: Strong words hitting a nerve -- Bob and Pat -- 10/13/08 11:09am
No thanks -- ray -- 10/13/08 11:28am
Re: "My Friends" -- Firemon -- 10/13/08 11:48am