For crying out loud Roger...Just what does this have to do with Jefferson or the fact that Obama wants to increase government involvement and size? Your comment, as per your usual, is completely off topic and what the Democrats, Repulbicans and Indpendents have together done in the recebt past has NOTHING to do with Jeffersonian positions or with Obama's future plans and thus has absolutley nothing to do with the issues raised in the thread. BMD is trying to misquote someone who would be completely opposed to Obama's plans...completely. And he tried to footstool the misquote into meaning something completely different when taken in context.

Aside from that, you have previosuly suggested that you too are for smaller government despite conflicting with your choice of cadidate, and still leading us to agreement on the point that smaller government is preferrable. Honestly, you are the only person I have ever known who continues to try and argue things after agreement has been reached! Very telling about what you are really trying to do: Creat division and derision and unnecessary arguments that have nothing to do with the issue at hand. It resemlbes ADD although I am sure you know exactly what you do.