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Re: license...taxes..secret identity!!!!!!!!
By:ray
Date: 10/16/08 5:03pm
In Response To: license...taxes..secret identity!!!!!!!! (MilwaukeeMike)

My rebuttal is "it matters not". He indicated he was "thinking of" buying a business and I have seen employees in not so good shape buy out owners on more than one occassion. I don't see any alleged tax lien as an issue at all. What DOES matter is the underlying issue:

Do we as acountry want t ostart dow nteh road where we engage in wealth transfer as Obama has framed it? Other presidents hae not framed it as in the socialist way that Obama has and his ideas on central government are in that direction. Joe the Plumber actually got a real issue in the limelight to be discussed. Teh candidates made that issue front and center. That means this is something that is important to the American people and the fact that both candidates repestedly brought it up is great and that at least for a moment we had them talking about issues and not this bullshit.

Unfortunately, once again, our media misses the boat as so do you. The issue is whether this country wants to engage in socialist wealth transfers. Whether it is good to be talking about hitting those who can create jobs with higher taxes in a bad economy. We should focus on the issue for a change but the evil media has to address the unimportatn things once again. Very sad indeed.

Finally, I find it amazing that they go digging on Joe, but we still are not even clear on the school documents that state Obama had another name Barry Soetoro. That he was listed as being an Islamist and an Indonesion citizen. Why we cannot get his birth certificate knowing that when one is adopted, the original birht documents are sealed adn a new birth certificate is issued. There is information to suggest that he was adopted too by his grandparents.

I don;t want to know about Palin's daughter's boyfriend, ot hte librarain or whether Joe paid his taxes. I want to know about the issues. I want to know wheteher Obama is actually elligible to be president. Issues please!

Finally, Keating got buted, wasa convicted and the conviction I understand was later overturned. McCain was never convicted of anything. If this guy is a relative of Keating I think Obama deserved what he got. And I think it is a great laugh.

As I said intially...Joe the Plumber won the debate. He dominated the discussion last night and is the one getting all the press today.

Messages In This Thread

Joe the Plumber... -- ray -- 10/16/08 11:57am
Re: Joe the Plumber... -- IHR -- 10/16/08 2:45pm
Re: Joe the Plumber... -- ray -- 10/18/08 1:16am
Re: Joe the Plumber... *NM* -- NancyJ -- 10/16/08 2:25pm
Re: Joe the Plumber... -- rhonda -- 10/16/08 2:50pm
arsehole *NM* -- Sis Irijah -- 10/16/08 2:19pm
Re: Joe the Plumber... -- Jenny Shreve -- 10/16/08 2:18pm
Re: Joe the Plumber... -- ray -- 10/16/08 4:32pm
Re: Joe the Plumber... -- queenb -- 10/16/08 7:34pm
These opportunities ALREADy Exist! -- Lola -- 10/17/08 11:23am
hear hear on that !!!!!! -- oldtimer -- 10/16/08 7:45pm
God bless America...overseas...you need your -- oldtimer -- 10/16/08 5:48pm
OT...are you drunk? -- ray -- 10/16/08 6:00pm
of course I'm drunk. Why else -- oldtimer -- 10/16/08 7:43pm
;0) *NM* -- ray -- 10/17/08 11:49am
Re: Joe the Plumber... -- Roger -- 10/16/08 4:34pm
Re: Joe the Plumber... -- rhonda -- 10/16/08 2:58pm
Re: Joe the Plumber... -- vermontirie -- 10/16/08 2:16pm
fair game venmotirie -- ray -- 10/16/08 2:38pm
Re: fair game venmotirie -- Roger -- 10/16/08 2:43pm
Re: Joe the Plumber is a joke -- Stephanie -- 10/16/08 1:57pm
Got that backwards don't ya -- ray -- 10/16/08 5:28pm
Re: Got that backwards don't ya -- bruce -- 10/16/08 7:46pm
Re: Got that backwards don't ya -- accompong -- 10/16/08 7:56pm
So far just a rumor???? -- Lola -- 10/16/08 5:18pm
Re: So far just a rumor???? -- Roger -- 10/16/08 5:22pm
Lots of Wurzelbachers in the area -- Lola -- 10/16/08 5:34pm
Yoo Hooooooooo Ray -- NancyJ -- 10/16/08 2:14pm
Re: Joe the Plumber... -- rhonda -- 10/16/08 1:45pm
No more time to waste... -- ray -- 10/16/08 2:01pm
Re: No more time to waste... -- rhonda -- 10/16/08 2:13pm
Re: No more time to waste... -- Roger -- 10/16/08 2:05pm
If that is the way you feel. Roger .. -- ray -- 10/16/08 2:22pm
Re: If that is the way you feel. Roger .. -- accompong -- 10/16/08 7:53pm
Mutual respect?!?!?! -- Bob and Pat -- 10/16/08 2:32pm
Re: Mutual respect?!?!?! -- likklered -- 10/17/08 7:16pm
Re: If that is the way you feel. Roger .. -- Roger -- 10/16/08 2:28pm
Re: No more time to waste... -- rhonda -- 10/16/08 2:16pm
Re: Joe the Plumber... -- Island Girl -- 10/16/08 1:50pm
Re: Joe the Plumber... -- Roger -- 10/16/08 1:53pm
who's obama's daddy -- ray -- 10/16/08 2:08pm
Re: who's obama's daddy -- queenb -- 10/16/08 10:42pm
Re: who's obama's daddy -- accompong -- 10/16/08 8:00pm
Re: who's obama's daddy -- francesca -- 10/16/08 3:30pm
that's funny but... -- ray -- 10/16/08 4:36pm
Re: that's funny but... -- queenb -- 10/16/08 10:45pm
Re: that's funny but... -- Roger -- 10/16/08 4:51pm
Re: that's funny but... -- BMD -- 10/16/08 5:50pm
Re: who's obama's daddy -- Roger -- 10/16/08 3:34pm
Re: who's obama's daddy -- IHR -- 10/16/08 2:53pm
Re: Shame on you, Ray!! -- Jenny Shreve -- 10/16/08 2:40pm
hello Jenny -- rhonda -- 10/16/08 2:55pm
Re: Hi Rhonda!!! -- Jenny Shreve -- 10/16/08 7:55pm
Shame on you, Ray!! -- Jenny Shreve -- 10/16/08 2:28pm
Re: Shame on you, Ray!! -- ray -- 10/16/08 2:53pm
Re: Shame on you, Ray!! -- Islander1 -- 10/16/08 11:33pm
Re: Shame on you, Ray!! -- LukerPosting -- 10/16/08 5:50pm
Re: Shame on you, Ray!! -- Lurker posting -- 10/16/08 5:34pm
Re: Shame on you, Ray!! -- Lurker posting -- 10/16/08 5:39pm
Re: Shame on you, Ray!! -- JL -- 10/16/08 5:23pm
We disagree -- ray -- 10/16/08 5:48pm
Re: We disagree -- accompong -- 10/16/08 8:10pm
Re: We disagree -- queenb -- 10/16/08 11:03pm
Re: We disagree -- BMD -- 10/16/08 6:34pm
u need to be committed at the state hospital ray *NM* -- Sis Irijah -- 10/16/08 5:59pm
Re: We disagree -- Rastagirl -- 10/16/08 6:00pm
Re: We disagree -- Bob and Pat -- 10/16/08 6:11pm
Re: We disagree -- accompong -- 10/17/08 6:58pm
Re: We disagree -- LukerPosting -- 10/16/08 5:59pm
Re: We disagree -- BMD -- 10/16/08 7:25pm
applies to Palin = tru tru *NM* -- katie -- 10/16/08 7:35pm
Re: Ray's gay problem -- BMD -- 10/16/08 3:00pm
Re: Shame on you, Ray!! *NM* -- Sis Irijah -- 10/16/08 3:19pm
Re: Joe was a plant. -- BMD -- 10/16/08 2:42pm
Re: who's obama's daddy -- rhonda -- 10/16/08 2:26pm
Re: who's obama's daddy -- goldilocks -- 10/16/08 2:22pm
Re: who's obama's daddy -- Roger -- 10/16/08 2:23pm
Re: who's obama's daddy -- vermontirie -- 10/16/08 2:19pm
double arsehole *NM* -- Sis Irijah -- 10/16/08 2:21pm
Re: who's obama's daddy -- Roger -- 10/16/08 2:17pm
Re: Joe the Plumber... -- Roger -- 10/16/08 1:37pm
Re: Joe the Plumber... -- vermontirie -- 10/16/08 2:29pm
Re: Joke the Plumber... -- Stephanie -- 10/16/08 2:28pm
He doesn't need a license... -- ray -- 10/16/08 1:59pm
license...taxes..secret identity!!!!!!!! -- MilwaukeeMike -- 10/16/08 3:44pm
Re: license...taxes..secret identity!!!!!!!! -- ray -- 10/16/08 5:03pm
Re: license...taxes..secret identity!!!!!!!! -- Roger -- 10/16/08 5:15pm
This is where you have it turned around -- Lola -- 10/16/08 5:24pm
Re: He doesn't need a license... -- Roger -- 10/16/08 2:03pm
i would trust him... -- ray -- 10/16/08 2:43pm
Re: i would trust him... -- Roger -- 10/16/08 2:47pm
Re: Roger...isn't it TIME yet? This time? -- IHR -- 10/16/08 3:04pm
Good one Yaman! -- Irony -- 10/17/08 2:11pm
Re: Joe the Plumber... -- Island Girl -- 10/16/08 1:40pm
Joe's actual words were... -- ray -- 10/16/08 5:20pm
Re: Joe the Plumber... -- Roger -- 10/16/08 1:42pm
Re: Joe the Plumber... -- Islander1 -- 10/16/08 12:57pm
Re: Joe the Plumber... -- ray -- 10/16/08 1:05pm
Re: Joe the Plumber... -- Islander1 -- 10/16/08 4:13pm
NOtTgoing to rehash... -- ray -- 10/16/08 5:13pm