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Re: Obama's membership in the SOCIALIST New Party
By:vermontirie
Date: 10/9/08 4:06pm
In Response To: Re: Obama's membership in the SOCIALIST New Party (ray)

I know you are but what am I?

Yawn.

Seriously, equating the desire to give those less fortunate than I am a hand to being a communist is the biggest cop out, Ray. How dare you portend to know a damn thing about my belief or non-belief in socialism? And if you want to go head to head on social programs, Ray, I'll take my 8 years of professional education and training and 10 years of professional work in the field over your ability to Google any damn day of the week.

As a concept, I think Socialism has the potential to be fantastic. In reality, I know it's impossible and would end as poorly or GASP worse than the sickening state of current capitalistic greed. I believe in a balance. I BELIEVE that people deserve a chance in life and that keeping the vast majority of wealth spread in the slightest minority of the population is a sick, sick game.

The free market crap is a lovely notion, but the basic truth is that nothing ABOUT this market is free. It is controlled very closely at the uppermost level and very few people have a snowballs chance in hell of that so-called American Dream regardless of their work ethic.

Incidentally, Ray---catastrophic FAIL on this comment: "lending money to low income people to get houses they could not afforid." Bullshit. Just like a good conservative, you are placing the blame on the po' folk and refusing to acknowledge that the middle class are just as involved in this mess. Seriously? You really believe that the banks were falling all over themselves to hand out loans to people of low to non-existent income? What about the huge influx of house flipping before the economy tanked? The rich took the loans to flip the houses and failed miserably. Such blanket statements and generalizations indicate ignorance, Ray, and I know you aren't an ignorant man.

You know what? I'd rather be called a Socialist than a Republican. At least at the heart of socialism there is a...well, heart.

Messages In This Thread

Obama's membership in the SOCIALIST New Party -- Lola -- 10/9/08 12:54pm
Re: Obama's membership in the SOCIALIST New Party -- ray -- 10/9/08 2:18pm
Re: Obama's membership in the SOCIALIST New Party -- Roger -- 10/9/08 2:40pm
Re: Obama's membership in the SOCIALIST New Party -- ray -- 10/9/08 6:55pm
Re: Obama's membership in the SOCIALIST New Party -- Roger -- 10/9/08 7:16pm
Just Say NO. -- ray -- 10/9/08 7:38pm
Re: Obama's membership in the SOCIALIST New Party -- Blue Mountain Drifter -- 10/9/08 2:45pm
Re: Obama's membership in the SOCIALIST New Party -- ray -- 10/9/08 6:57pm
Re: Obama's membership in the SOCIALIST New Party -- vermontirie -- 10/9/08 3:13pm
Re: Obama's membership in the SOCIALIST New Party -- ray -- 10/9/08 3:41pm
Re: Obama's membership in the SOCIALIST New Party -- vermontirie -- 10/9/08 4:06pm
Re: Obama's membership in the SOCIALIST New Party -- ray -- 10/9/08 7:21pm
Re: Obama's membership in the SOCIALIST New Party -- queenb -- 10/9/08 7:43pm
Re: Obama's membership in the SOCIALIST New Party -- ray -- 10/9/08 7:59pm
Re: Obama's membership in the SOCIALIST New Party -- queenb -- 10/9/08 8:26pm
Re: Obama's membership in the SOCIALIST New Party -- ray -- 10/9/08 8:55pm
Re: Obama's membership in the SOCIALIST New Party -- Roger -- 10/9/08 7:47pm
Re: Obama's membership in the SOCIALIST New Party -- ray -- 10/9/08 8:04pm
Re: Low-income families -- Blue Mountain Drifter -- 10/9/08 10:21pm
about that bailout -- vermontirie -- 10/10/08 10:59am
What does this have to do with.. -- Col. Andy & "Wildcat" Pam -- 10/9/08 2:20pm
People should know the consequences of their vote -- Lola -- 10/9/08 5:05pm
Re: People should know the consequences of their v -- queenb -- 10/9/08 8:21pm
and we should probably also turn our back------Web -- Papi------WebKitFormBoundaryxmUxjSk7m7mYDY+m -- 10/9/08 7:33pm
Re: and we should probably also turn our back----- -- ray -- 10/9/08 8:50pm
Re: People should know the consequences of their v -- Col. Andy & "Wildcat" Pam -- 10/9/08 7:32pm
Re: People should know the consequences of their v -- ray -- 10/9/08 7:52pm
You're kidding, right?------WebKitFormBoundarytuA8 -- Papi------WebKitFormBoundaryFTiHWCqNoe+9ZpQq------ -- 10/9/08 7:10pm
Well, She Thinks It's OK... -- Island Girl -- 10/9/08 7:17pm
I clearly stated otherwise IG. *NM* -- Lola -- 10/9/08 10:00pm
Re: I clearly stated otherwise IG. -- Island Girl -- 10/10/08 2:41am
Re: People should know the consequences of their v -- Roger -- 10/9/08 5:12pm
Re: People should know the consequences of their v -- ray -- 10/9/08 9:09pm
Re: People should know the consequences of their v -- Lola -- 10/9/08 5:41pm
Re: People should know the consequences of their v -- jabailey! -- 10/10/08 8:54pm
Re: People should know the consequences of their v -- ray -- 10/9/08 8:57pm
Re: People should know the consequences of their v -- Roger -- 10/9/08 5:52pm
by any chance do you mean those same people who -- Lola -- 10/9/08 10:42pm
Re: by any chance do you mean those same people wh -- Roger -- 10/9/08 10:44pm
Re: People should know the consequences of their v -- ray -- 10/9/08 9:02pm
Re: People should know the consequences of their v -- Roger -- 10/9/08 9:14pm
We're not just talking 'poor people' -- Lola -- 10/9/08 10:44pm
Re: People should know the consequences of their v -- ray -- 10/9/08 10:01pm
Re: People should know the consequences of their v -- Roger -- 10/9/08 10:42pm
Re: People should know the consequences of their v -- ray -- 10/10/08 2:16am
Re: People should know the consequences of their v -- Roger -- 10/10/08 1:01pm
Re: People should know the consequences of their v -- accompong -- 10/10/08 6:37pm
ya think? -- Papi------WebKitFormBoundaryxmUxjSk7m7mYDY+m -- 10/10/08 7:18pm
Re: ya think? -- accompong -- 10/11/08 11:22am
Nice Guy, Aye? *NM* -- Island Girl -- 10/11/08 10:38am
LOL :) *NM* -- NancyJ -- 10/10/08 5:45pm
Re: What does this have to do with.. -- ray -- 10/9/08 3:44pm
Re: What does this have to do with.. -- Roger -- 10/9/08 3:58pm
Re: What does this have to do with.. -- ray -- 10/9/08 9:28pm
Re: What does this have to do with.. -- Roger -- 10/9/08 9:44pm
Re: What does this have to do with.. -- ray -- 10/9/08 11:41pm
Re: What does this have to do with.. -- Blue Mountain Drifter -- 10/9/08 10:54pm
Re: What does this have to do with.. -- ray -- 10/9/08 11:49pm
Re: Free trade=No jobs -- Blue Mountain Drifter -- 10/10/08 8:46am
Re: Free trade=No jobs -- Roger -- 10/10/08 1:03pm
Ross' company was bought -- central scrutinizer -- 10/10/08 1:46pm
Re: What does this have to do with.. -- Roger -- 10/10/08 12:04am