Roger said: "See Ray, the first line in your reply negates all content that comes after because it begins with one huge false or misleading statement. It was not just the PRESIDENT that screwed up this economy, REPUBLICANS had full control of the CONGRESS to dish up the policies that allowed the economic disaster we are facing today."

Ray responds: It is not I who is false or misleading but rather you Roger. In fact, you are a flat out liar. We danced this before and I showed you to be wrong then as the Repbulicans have NEVER had full control of Congress as you very well know. Since you repeat it here, I am telling you, you know you are lying. In fact I got several e-mails from people who laughed at you about this control issue you raise repeatedly and one asked me if I really thought you could be that stupid not to understand basic civics. I said no then but in all honesty really don't know what to think now. Msot likely, either you are that stupid, or you revel in useless and unecessary argument for arguments sake. Perhpas it is some other flaw.

As for the meltdown, you and I had many discussions. As I have repeatedly indicated, it was your typical rhetorical nothingness as once again exhibited here, that caused me to research the issue myself and wherein I learned this was primarily the Dems fault. They resisted Bill Cinton's, Bush's and the Republicans attemtps to solve it. Bush and the Republicans could not solve it because the Repubs did not have full control of Congress and whne the issue came on the floor, the Dems fillibustered it to keep it from coming for a vote. Sorry I cannot agree with you on this one, but I am with Bill Clinton on this one...as he said, and I agree, the Dems did this. The process took almost four decasdes to come to fruition beginning with the Credit Reinvestment Act during the Carter administration and the socialistic view everyone deserves a home, even those who could not afford them. And, for some reason, you always seem to simply overlook that every investment has risk, something many people did not consider obviously.

Any other questions Roger?