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Re: Obama perhaps not able to be president
By:ray
Date: 10/12/08 8:03pm
In Response To: Re: Obama perhaps not able to be president (Cheyenne)

I did not say that it is a valid suit or not nad I cannot believe it will amount to anything as I just cannot see this election possilbegetting anymore dramatic than it has been. Certinaly could be fivilous for all I know. I will say that the pleadings are clear in the lines arguments. I am not an immigration lawyer and do not have electronic access to immigration law databases to research the legal cases and statutes addressed in the pleadings. When Tammy fomr jamericans.com asked me for some information, I made it clear I was not an immigration attorney an could not really assist.

Once source I found reports the issues reported in the suit report and indicates that Obama could still be a citizen but does not address the issue of whether that would be a natural born citizen or a naturalized citizen, the former eligible to hold the office of PResident, the latter not. It is my understanding that if a country does not recognize dual citizenship, the US will not either...apparent comity rules from the Hague convention. This is a case of first impression. By that, I mean this issue has never been visited by the Courts. It is also my understaning that the term natural born is not clear in the founding documents and case law on the issue is scant and I am not aware of the issues presented or the holdings and cannot commment on that.

I will say that if he was indeed adopted, there are issues. First, when applying for the bar, he indicated his name was Barack Obama and he never had any other former names. He also indicated he has NEVER been a Msulim, stuided Islam or practiced such. If the school documnet is valid and correct, there are other serious issues raised about his truthfulness about these issues and then why the need to lie about them.

Here is that article from 8-21:

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=72656

Messages In This Thread

Obam perhaps not abel to be president -- ray -- 10/11/08 6:28pm
Re: Obam perhaps not abel to be president -- Roger -- 10/13/08 9:00pm
Re: Obam perhaps not abel to be president -- Roger -- 10/13/08 2:47pm
Hellloooo Raaaayyyy... Are You Out There? LOL :-) *NM* -- Island Girl -- 10/13/08 10:14pm
Re: Obam perhaps not abel to be president -- ray -- 10/13/08 1:10pm
Re: Obam perhaps not abel to be president -- ray -- 10/13/08 1:27pm
here's his birth certificate -- georgiajan -- 10/12/08 2:40pm
Re: here's his birth certificate -- ray -- 10/12/08 6:29pm
Re: here's his birth certificate -- Roger -- 10/12/08 2:59pm
Re: here's his birth certificate -- Roger -- 10/12/08 2:57pm
dISCOVERT REQUESTS REFUSED -- ray -- 10/11/08 10:40pm
Re: Burden of Proof ? -- BMD -- 10/12/08 3:18pm
Re: Burden of Proof ? -- ray -- 10/12/08 6:17pm
Re: Burden of Proof ? Make a deal -- BMD -- 10/12/08 11:53pm
Re: dISCOVERT REQUESTS REFUSED -- accompong -- 10/12/08 3:04pm
Re: dISCOVERT REQUESTS REFUSED -- Roger -- 10/12/08 2:50pm
Re: Obam perhaps not abel to be president -- ray -- 10/11/08 7:33pm
Video from Attorney Berg -- ray -- 10/11/08 7:47pm
Re: Obam perhaps not abel to be president -- ray -- 10/11/08 6:53pm
Re: his eminence Philip Berg, Esq -- BMD -- 10/12/08 1:56am
Yep...that's him -- ray -- 10/12/08 2:41am
Re: Yep...that's him -- Roger -- 10/12/08 3:08pm
LOL Roger -- ray -- 10/12/08 6:33pm
Re: LOL Roger -- Roger -- 10/13/08 3:01pm
Re: Obam perhaps not abel to be president -- Roger -- 10/11/08 7:00pm
Nothing to do with the thread *NM* -- ray -- 10/11/08 7:05pm
Re: Nothing to do with the thread -- Roger -- 10/11/08 7:12pm
Re: Nothing to do with the thread -- ray -- 10/11/08 7:15pm
Re: Nothing to do with the thread -- Roger -- 10/11/08 7:22pm
LOL ROGER - TOO FUNNY! *NM* -- ray -- 10/11/08 7:24pm
Get a clue, Ray -- Anne -- 10/11/08 6:58pm
Don't kill the messenger -- ray -- 10/11/08 7:04pm
Re: Don't kill the messenger -- Eagles -- 10/12/08 9:33am
Re: Don't kill the messenger -- ray -- 10/12/08 9:36am
Re: Don't kill the messenger -- Eagles -- 10/13/08 8:35am
Re: Don't kill the messenger -- Roger -- 10/12/08 3:31pm
Re: Don't kill the messenger -- ray -- 10/12/08 7:18pm
Re: Obam perhaps not abel to be president -- Jenny Shreve -- 10/11/08 6:55pm
Re: Obama perhaps not able to be president -- ray -- 10/11/08 7:00pm
Re: Obama perhaps not able to be president -- queenb -- 10/11/08 11:07pm
Clearly you are not a lawyer -- ray -- 10/12/08 9:35am
Re: Clearly you are not a lawyer -- queenb -- 10/12/08 7:31pm
Re: Clearly you are not a lawyer -- ray -- 10/13/08 12:34pm
Re: Clearly you are not a lawyer -- queenb -- 10/13/08 7:51pm
blah blah blah *NM* -- NancyJ -- 10/12/08 4:00pm
LOL...you guys really are funny! *NM* -- ray -- 10/12/08 6:34pm
Re: Inside Edition ? -- BMD -- 10/12/08 3:16pm
LOL...I quoted who? -- ray -- 10/12/08 6:43pm
Re: Just remember... -- Islander1 -- 10/12/08 10:10am
LOL...mi belly hurts -- ray -- 10/12/08 7:44pm
Re: Obama perhaps not able to be president -- Cheyenne -- 10/11/08 11:57pm
Re: Obama perhaps not able to be president -- ray -- 10/12/08 8:03pm
Re: Obama perhaps not able to be president -- Cheyenne -- 10/12/08 9:54am
Re: Obama perhaps not able to be president -- ray -- 10/12/08 8:05pm
Re: Obama perhaps not able to be president -- Roger -- 10/11/08 7:03pm
Re: Obama perhaps not able to be president -- ray -- 10/11/08 7:06pm
Re: Obama perhaps not able to be president -- Roger -- 10/11/08 7:15pm
Re: Obama perhaps not able to be president -- IHR -- 10/11/08 7:31pm
LOL Roger...Too funny *NM* -- ray -- 10/11/08 7:19pm
Re: Obam perhaps not abel to be president -- ray -- 10/11/08 6:30pm
Re: Obam perhaps not abel to be president -- Roger -- 10/11/08 6:30pm
Re: Obam perhaps not able to be president -- ray -- 10/11/08 6:37pm
Re: Obam perhaps not able to be president -- Roger -- 10/11/08 6:42pm
Re: Obam perhaps not able to be president -- ray -- 10/11/08 6:57pm
Re: Obam perhaps not able to be president -- Roger -- 10/11/08 7:06pm
Re: Obam perhaps not able to be president -- ray -- 10/11/08 7:09pm
Re: Obam perhaps not abel to be president -- ray -- 10/11/08 6:31pm
Re: Obam perhaps not abel to be president -- Roger -- 10/11/08 6:36pm
Re: Obam perhaps not abel to be president -- ray -- 10/11/08 6:40pm
Re: Obam perhaps not abel to be president -- Roger -- 10/11/08 6:44pm
Re: Obam perhaps not abel to be president -- accompong -- 10/11/08 6:54pm
Kindly delete personal insulting post -- ray -- 10/11/08 7:13pm
Re: Kindly delete personal insulting post -- Roger -- 10/11/08 7:19pm
Re: Kindly delete personal insulting post -- ray -- 10/11/08 7:22pm
Re: Kindly delete personal insulting post -- Roger -- 10/11/08 7:29pm
LOL...okay Roger...too funny *NM* -- ray -- 10/11/08 7:34pm
if that's not the pot calling the kettle black!--- -- Papi------WebKitFormBoundaryxmUxjSk7m7mYDY+m------ -- 10/11/08 7:19pm
papi..... -- Sis Irijah -- 10/12/08 6:41am
Re: if that's not the pot calling the kettle black -- queenb -- 10/11/08 11:09pm
some obnoxious thing -- papi -- 10/12/08 8:40am
correct Papi -- NancyJ -- 10/11/08 8:08pm
Re: Obam perhaps not abel to be president -- ray -- 10/11/08 7:07pm
Re: Obama perhaps able to be president -- BMD -- 10/11/08 9:57pm
Re: Obama perhaps able to be president -- ray -- 10/12/08 9:43am
Re: Obam perhaps not abel to be president -- Roger -- 10/11/08 6:33pm