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Re: Clearly you are not a lawyer
By:queenb
Date: 10/12/08 7:31pm
In Response To: Clearly you are not a lawyer (ray)

True, ray, I'm not a lawyer (there must be a reason why Jamaicans pronounce it liar, hmm?) Again ray according to Section 349(a)(5) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) (8 U.S.C. 1481(a)(5)) is the section of law that governs the ability of a United States citizen to renounce his or her U.S. citizenship. That section of law provides for the loss of nationality by voluntarily performing the following act with the intent to relinquish his or her U.S. nationality of the Immigration and Naturalization Act "F. RENUNCIATION FOR MINOR CHILDREN

Parents cannot renounce U.S. citizenship on behalf of their minor children. Before an oath of renunciation will be administered under Section 349(a)(5) of the INA, a person under the age of eighteen must convince a U.S. diplomatic or consular officer that he/she fully understands the nature and consequences of the oath of renunciation, is not subject to duress or undue influence, and is voluntarily seeking to renounce his/her U.S. citizenship." Again this information is found at:

http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_776.html

Additionally, the laws cover citizenship if it was renounced before age 18 (assumably by parent/guardian, since Obama returned to the US by age 10).
Section G: IRREVOCABILITY OF RENUNCIATION

Finally, those contemplating a renunciation of U.S. citizenship should understand that the act is irrevocable, except as provided in section 351 of the INA (8 U.S.C. 1483), and cannot be canceled or set aside absent successful administrative or judicial appeal. (Section 351(b) of the INA provides that an applicant who renounced his or her U.S. citizenship before the age of eighteen can have that citizenship reinstated if he or she makes that desire known to the Department of State within six months after attaining the age of eighteen. See also Title 22, Code of Federal Regulations, section 50.20).

So even if his citizenship were renounced by his mother and STEP father, he could have, if it had happened, reclaim his citizenship after attaining age 18. The law is the law, ray, check it out and stop grasping at straws!

Messages In This Thread

Obam perhaps not abel to be president -- ray -- 10/11/08 6:28pm
Re: Obam perhaps not abel to be president -- Roger -- 10/13/08 9:00pm
Re: Obam perhaps not abel to be president -- Roger -- 10/13/08 2:47pm
Hellloooo Raaaayyyy... Are You Out There? LOL :-) *NM* -- Island Girl -- 10/13/08 10:14pm
Re: Obam perhaps not abel to be president -- ray -- 10/13/08 1:10pm
Re: Obam perhaps not abel to be president -- ray -- 10/13/08 1:27pm
here's his birth certificate -- georgiajan -- 10/12/08 2:40pm
Re: here's his birth certificate -- ray -- 10/12/08 6:29pm
Re: here's his birth certificate -- Roger -- 10/12/08 2:59pm
Re: here's his birth certificate -- Roger -- 10/12/08 2:57pm
dISCOVERT REQUESTS REFUSED -- ray -- 10/11/08 10:40pm
Re: Burden of Proof ? -- BMD -- 10/12/08 3:18pm
Re: Burden of Proof ? -- ray -- 10/12/08 6:17pm
Re: Burden of Proof ? Make a deal -- BMD -- 10/12/08 11:53pm
Re: dISCOVERT REQUESTS REFUSED -- accompong -- 10/12/08 3:04pm
Re: dISCOVERT REQUESTS REFUSED -- Roger -- 10/12/08 2:50pm
Re: Obam perhaps not abel to be president -- ray -- 10/11/08 7:33pm
Video from Attorney Berg -- ray -- 10/11/08 7:47pm
Re: Obam perhaps not abel to be president -- ray -- 10/11/08 6:53pm
Re: his eminence Philip Berg, Esq -- BMD -- 10/12/08 1:56am
Yep...that's him -- ray -- 10/12/08 2:41am
Re: Yep...that's him -- Roger -- 10/12/08 3:08pm
LOL Roger -- ray -- 10/12/08 6:33pm
Re: LOL Roger -- Roger -- 10/13/08 3:01pm
Re: Obam perhaps not abel to be president -- Roger -- 10/11/08 7:00pm
Nothing to do with the thread *NM* -- ray -- 10/11/08 7:05pm
Re: Nothing to do with the thread -- Roger -- 10/11/08 7:12pm
Re: Nothing to do with the thread -- ray -- 10/11/08 7:15pm
Re: Nothing to do with the thread -- Roger -- 10/11/08 7:22pm
LOL ROGER - TOO FUNNY! *NM* -- ray -- 10/11/08 7:24pm
Get a clue, Ray -- Anne -- 10/11/08 6:58pm
Don't kill the messenger -- ray -- 10/11/08 7:04pm
Re: Don't kill the messenger -- Eagles -- 10/12/08 9:33am
Re: Don't kill the messenger -- ray -- 10/12/08 9:36am
Re: Don't kill the messenger -- Eagles -- 10/13/08 8:35am
Re: Don't kill the messenger -- Roger -- 10/12/08 3:31pm
Re: Don't kill the messenger -- ray -- 10/12/08 7:18pm
Re: Obam perhaps not abel to be president -- Jenny Shreve -- 10/11/08 6:55pm
Re: Obama perhaps not able to be president -- ray -- 10/11/08 7:00pm
Re: Obama perhaps not able to be president -- queenb -- 10/11/08 11:07pm
Clearly you are not a lawyer -- ray -- 10/12/08 9:35am
Re: Clearly you are not a lawyer -- queenb -- 10/12/08 7:31pm
Re: Clearly you are not a lawyer -- ray -- 10/13/08 12:34pm
Re: Clearly you are not a lawyer -- queenb -- 10/13/08 7:51pm
blah blah blah *NM* -- NancyJ -- 10/12/08 4:00pm
LOL...you guys really are funny! *NM* -- ray -- 10/12/08 6:34pm
Re: Inside Edition ? -- BMD -- 10/12/08 3:16pm
LOL...I quoted who? -- ray -- 10/12/08 6:43pm
Re: Just remember... -- Islander1 -- 10/12/08 10:10am
LOL...mi belly hurts -- ray -- 10/12/08 7:44pm
Re: Obama perhaps not able to be president -- Cheyenne -- 10/11/08 11:57pm
Re: Obama perhaps not able to be president -- ray -- 10/12/08 8:03pm
Re: Obama perhaps not able to be president -- Cheyenne -- 10/12/08 9:54am
Re: Obama perhaps not able to be president -- ray -- 10/12/08 8:05pm
Re: Obama perhaps not able to be president -- Roger -- 10/11/08 7:03pm
Re: Obama perhaps not able to be president -- ray -- 10/11/08 7:06pm
Re: Obama perhaps not able to be president -- Roger -- 10/11/08 7:15pm
Re: Obama perhaps not able to be president -- IHR -- 10/11/08 7:31pm
LOL Roger...Too funny *NM* -- ray -- 10/11/08 7:19pm
Re: Obam perhaps not abel to be president -- ray -- 10/11/08 6:30pm
Re: Obam perhaps not abel to be president -- Roger -- 10/11/08 6:30pm
Re: Obam perhaps not able to be president -- ray -- 10/11/08 6:37pm
Re: Obam perhaps not able to be president -- Roger -- 10/11/08 6:42pm
Re: Obam perhaps not able to be president -- ray -- 10/11/08 6:57pm
Re: Obam perhaps not able to be president -- Roger -- 10/11/08 7:06pm
Re: Obam perhaps not able to be president -- ray -- 10/11/08 7:09pm
Re: Obam perhaps not abel to be president -- ray -- 10/11/08 6:31pm
Re: Obam perhaps not abel to be president -- Roger -- 10/11/08 6:36pm
Re: Obam perhaps not abel to be president -- ray -- 10/11/08 6:40pm
Re: Obam perhaps not abel to be president -- Roger -- 10/11/08 6:44pm
Re: Obam perhaps not abel to be president -- accompong -- 10/11/08 6:54pm
Kindly delete personal insulting post -- ray -- 10/11/08 7:13pm
Re: Kindly delete personal insulting post -- Roger -- 10/11/08 7:19pm
Re: Kindly delete personal insulting post -- ray -- 10/11/08 7:22pm
Re: Kindly delete personal insulting post -- Roger -- 10/11/08 7:29pm
LOL...okay Roger...too funny *NM* -- ray -- 10/11/08 7:34pm
if that's not the pot calling the kettle black!--- -- Papi------WebKitFormBoundaryxmUxjSk7m7mYDY+m------ -- 10/11/08 7:19pm
papi..... -- Sis Irijah -- 10/12/08 6:41am
Re: if that's not the pot calling the kettle black -- queenb -- 10/11/08 11:09pm
some obnoxious thing -- papi -- 10/12/08 8:40am
correct Papi -- NancyJ -- 10/11/08 8:08pm
Re: Obam perhaps not abel to be president -- ray -- 10/11/08 7:07pm
Re: Obama perhaps able to be president -- BMD -- 10/11/08 9:57pm
Re: Obama perhaps able to be president -- ray -- 10/12/08 9:43am
Re: Obam perhaps not abel to be president -- Roger -- 10/11/08 6:33pm